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Gimp 3.0.0 just hit Arch today. I knew I shouldn't have said Y to it, but I figured that if I didn't like it I'd just roll back. Forgetting I don't have a package (I didn't build gimp on this setup).

I fucking hate this. It's ugly and no longer respects my styling. The scrollbars are thin, ugly and autohiding too... just how I hate them. The dialogs aren't improved, they are just more awkward. Newer is NEVER better anymore.


So that leaves me going back to git history for the PKGBUILD to get the last release. I've got python2 and all other build deps installed. I'm going to build it from a tarball and add an Ignorepkg directive for it just for now (too late in the day to mess around figuring out how I want it built) and soon divorce it from packaging and put it in /usr/local or /opt/gimp or somewhere like everything else I don't want distros to mess with. Unfortunately, another thing I didn't think of was the settings. It probably converted them. I hate going through all of gimp's settings.

I got my gimp back now. Fortunately, when it migrated settings it generated a ~/.config/GIMP/3.0 directory and my 2.10 settings are intact.

For the permanence (without seeing ignored package warnings), I decided to just change pkgname to gimp210, which is also a bit of a pain in the ass to do in a PKGBUILD because I then have to replace every "cd ${pkgname}-${pkgver}" and stuff with the actual directory name. I also added conflicts=gimp, provides= and replaces= lines for seamless upgrade/downgrade and also removed unwanted build dependencies. I was going to do it manually and use the same build for gentoo but it probably needs to be compiled there anyway. I'll do that one in /usr/local because portage is too much of a pain in the ass with USE flags etc.

For contrast with the fugliness of Gimp 3.0.0 screenshot above. I didn't show it, but my orange gradient works when hovering on scroll bars, buttons and drop lists etc. in gimp 2.10.

I heard it was close. I don't understand the reason for the trend in ultra thin auto-hiding scrollbars, what problem does that solve, maybe because using normal scrollbars is too easy?

What pisses me off is that my styling is for both GTK+ 2 and 3 and gimp thinks it can just ignore and override that. Most of these clever UI changes don't solve anything, they just make software more awkward to work with.

I'm quite set on my GTK style, which is why I mostly choose a GTK environment (XFCE 4.18) and applications. I can get QT5 applications to look almost like my style too, using that qt5ct configuration program.

Anything that doesn't can crawl up my ass and die.

I don't need Gimp to work any differently for any editing I do (any 10 year old version would be fine!), moreover, I don't like change. So I can keep using this version for as long as I can still keep it running and/or compiling, which will be a long time. Some of my key things I don't want different, ever. I'm pretty set in my ways.