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Re: Cosmic Desktop Alpha Release

Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2025 9:26 am
by Zema Bus
It seems to be part of the new cosmic-greeter. I'm not using Cosmic's greeter so I thought of just removing it to get rid of screen locking, but when I ran pacman -Qi on it I found that it's now a dependency for the cosmic-session. Here's some of what I found on it, here and here. I couldn't find that locker.rs file.

Re: Cosmic Desktop Alpha Release

Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2025 11:32 am
by Grogan
That's the rust source code file that has the lock functionality, locker.rs (it would be found in the cosmic-greeter sources)

Change it to execute nothing and recompile :twisted:

Re: Cosmic Desktop Alpha Release

Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2025 2:47 am
by Zema Bus
There are some other anomalies I'm now seeing. The bottom dock isn't stable, after waking the screens, and the mandatory authentication to unlock the session, the dock is sometimes missing, once I was able to bring it back by going into settings and changing which screen it should be on, but the next time it disappeared that didn't work, nor did toggling it off/on. Another thing that sometimes happens after waking the screen is the dock will no longer be grouping applications, instead all the individual instances will be spread across the dock, which will be expanded across the full width of the screen, with arrows to access the ones that didn't fit. You can't tell what each instance is, they're too small and hovering the mouse over them tells you nothing. And the top panel, while stable in terms of staying in place, has some issues of it's own. On waking the screen sometimes the Workspaces menu is missing. I haven't seen the Applications menu disappear but since one of the two menus can disappear randomly they probably both can. I've never really liked docks, they've seemed interesting and I've experimented with them over the years and always ended up getting rid of them. This dock in Cosmic has only reinforced how I've come to see docks. I'd rather just have a normal panel to hold my launchers (like the XFCE panels). I don't think this DE is ready for a final release this coming week.

Re: Cosmic Desktop Alpha Release

Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2025 4:51 am
by Grogan
It sounds like they should go back to the early Alphas :lol:

As I said, that first early build I did was quite good, it wasn't crashing and while I did some manual tweaks to the config, it was quite configurable to my liking.

Re: Cosmic Desktop Alpha Release

Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2025 2:02 am
by Zema Bus
Now that it is at version 1.0 I thought I'd probably find a lot more discussions about it, and I did:
Honestly, Cosmic 1.0 feels like a Beta 2 (or less)

Sorry, but it feels like they didn't fix anything. It’s crystal clear to me that this is just a second beta—maybe not even that—because the exact same bugs are still here. There’s even a bug from the very first alpha that's still present: the one where the app launcher just won't open, you can't launch anything else, and clicking the top bar makes options appear and vanish instantly.

To me, this distro needed to stay in beta for another year. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not a hater. I’m actually a huge Pop!_OS advocate here in Brazil. I switched from Windows years ago thanks to Diolinux (the biggest Linux channel here and one of the biggest in the world).

I always loved Pop for the fresh drivers and kernels, and that’s why I used it. But honestly? I’m going to wait a long time before moving to Cosmic. It lacks A LOT to be considered "usable" right now. Just my personal opinion—do you guys agree or disagree? Let me know.
So many annoying bugs for me.

Maximizing a window causes the dock to expand to the screen edges.

There appears to be a limit on how small you can make a window. I use dclock to show the time on all workspaces but can't make it small enough to be below the main apps.

Using full screen on a browser seems to take an esc and F11 to get to normal.

Pcloud won't auto start and won't show on the panel.

I installed Cinnamon DE and am using the Wayland experimental. It seems more stable than Cosmic.
43m ago
So many annoying bugs for me.

Maximizing a window causes the dock to expand to the screen edges.

There appears to be a limit on how small you can make a window. I use dclock to show the time on all workspaces but can't make it small enough to be below the main apps.

Using full screen on a browser seems to take an esc and F11 to get to normal.

Pcloud won't auto start and won't show on the panel.

I installed Cinnamon DE and am using the Wayland experimental. It seems more stable than Cosmic.
9h ago
There are some missing usability options that make it hard going for me at the moment, but for me, most of what is here is working pretty well. It actually feels snappier than my old Gnome fvwm setup under 22.04.

Also, my complaints might be because I'm old and I have habits from using window managers from the 90s. For example, focus-follows-mouse mode automatically raises windows as they are focused. This makes using floating windows quite challenging, and sometimes impossible. I like to have the window title in the window list, not just a minimized thumbnail, as I'm old and use my ability to read to distinguish items. And so on.

There seems to be no option to turn off the password lock on the screen-saver. For most situations, I get it, but for my home PC in my basement, if the keyboard is physically compromised, I have bigger problems than the screenlock.

Minor glitches like weirdness with the workspaces are not super surprising, and will be worked out now that there's a lot more people discovering the issues and they can be prioritized sensibly. What worries me is that my use cases are so corner that they'll never be addressed.
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Re: Cosmic Desktop Alpha Release

Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2025 2:09 am
by Grogan
That doesn't sound too good.

It's not worth taking a chance on at this time, as Vulkan malfunctions have more serious consequences (v.s. even OpenGL accelerated compositors)

When something like a panel crash can make you hard boot, it's unsafe.

Re: Cosmic Desktop Alpha Release

Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2025 2:21 am
by Zema Bus
I think given enough time this will be a great DE, but it may take another year or more.

Re: Cosmic Desktop Alpha Release

Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2025 3:23 am
by Grogan
I think so too, I really liked what I first had. So much so that it still has a permanent entry in my login script, for the day that I install it again. I still have a choice "d" to start cosmic.